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'''Nicknames''': "LP", "A Lorimar Production"
'''Nicknames:''' "LP", "A Lorimar Production"


'''Logo''': On a blank {{font color|red|red}} screen, we see the words "{{font|Times New Roman|'''{{small|A}} L{{small|ORIMAR PRODUCTION}}'''}}" in a Goudy font wiping in. As this happens, a thick white line starts to draw out the letter "'''L'''", then turns and goes straight, before wrapping around and forming the letter "'''P'''", moving through the bottom of the "'''L'''" to form the bottom of the "'''P'''". It then stops a bit below the space between the words "{{font|Times New Roman|'''L{{small|ORIMAR}}'''}}"" and "{{font|Times New Roman|'''{{small|PRODUCTION}}'''}}".
'''Logo:''' On a blank {{font color|red|red}} screen, we see the words "{{font|Times New Roman|'''{{small|A}} L{{small|ORIMAR PRODUCTION}}'''}}" in a Goudy font wiping in. As this happens, a thick white line starts to draw out the letter "'''L'''", then turns and goes straight, before wrapping around and forming the letter "'''P'''", moving through the bottom of the "'''L'''" to form the bottom of the "'''P'''". It then stops a bit below the space between the words "{{font|Times New Roman|'''L{{small|ORIMAR}}'''}}"" and "{{font|Times New Roman|'''{{small|PRODUCTION}}'''}}".


'''Trivia''': The logo was created and designed by Sandy Dvore, who also created the 1982 [[United Artists]] "Turning UA" logo and the brush-stroke logo and drawings from the soap opera, ''The Young and the Restless''.
'''Trivia:''' The logo was created and designed by Sandy Dvore, who also created the 1982 [[United Artists]] "Turning UA" logo and the brush-stroke logo and drawings from the soap opera, ''The Young and the Restless''.


'''Variants''':
'''Variants:'''
*An in-credit notice/logo can be seen in some early productions from the company, such as in the TV movies ''Aesop's Fables'' and ''The Girls of Huntington House''.
*An in-credit notice/logo can be seen in some early productions from the company, such as in the TV movies ''Aesop's Fables'' and ''The Girls of Huntington House''.
*A dark variant exists possibly due to film deterioration, where the background is {{font color|brown|brown}}.
*A dark variant exists possibly due to film deterioration, where the background is {{font color|brown|brown}}.


'''FX/SFX''': The white line forming "'''LP'''" and "{{font|Times New Roman|'''{{small|A}} L{{small|ORIMAR PRODUCTION}}'''}}" wiping in.
'''FX/SFX:''' The white line forming "'''LP'''" and "{{font|Times New Roman|'''{{small|A}} L{{small|ORIMAR PRODUCTION}}'''}}" wiping in.


'''Music/Sounds''':
'''Music/Sounds:'''
*An electric piano-type scale is played as the "LP" is formed, going up this scale: Low C, A, E, F, A, Mid C, E, F, A, High C (hold and fade, leaving an echo). This tune was composed by Jack Elliot and Allyn Ferguson and was played on a Fender Rhodes electric piano. Sometimes, the last note fades-out early or there would be no music. A high tone variant exists as well.
*An electric piano-type scale is played as the "LP" is formed, going up this scale: Low C, A, E, F, A, Mid C, E, F, A, High C (hold and fade, leaving an echo). This tune was composed by Jack Elliot and Allyn Ferguson and was played on a Fender Rhodes electric piano. Sometimes, the last note fades-out early or there would be no music. A high tone variant exists as well.
*The in-credit variant has the closing theme of the movie.
*The in-credit variant has the closing theme of the movie.


'''Music/Sounds Trivia''': Recent American prints of ''The Ninth Configuration'' feature a higher-pitched variant of the jingle playing over a dedication screen (to writer/director William Peter Blatty's son, Peter Vincent Galahad Blatty). Lorimar held TV and some foreign rights to the film, so it's possible that portions of the movie's audio were sourced from a time compressed TV print.
'''Music/Sounds Trivia:''' Recent American prints of ''The Ninth Configuration'' feature a higher-pitched variant of the jingle playing over a dedication screen (to writer/director William Peter Blatty's son, Peter Vincent Galahad Blatty). Lorimar held TV and some foreign rights to the film, so it's possible that portions of the movie's audio were sourced from a time compressed TV print.


'''Availability''': Rare.  
'''Availability:''' Rare.  
*It's still saved on most episodes of ''The Waltons'' on the DVD box sets (with the WBTD logo following it), however TNN (now Paramount Network) airings in the late '90s plastered this logo with the 1994 WB Domestic Pay TV logo.
*It's still saved on most episodes of ''The Waltons'' on the DVD box sets (with the [[Warner Bros. Television|Warner Bros. Television Distribution]] logo following it), however TNN (now Paramount Network) airings in the late '90s plastered this logo with the 1994 [[Warner Bros. Domestic Pay TV, Cable & Network Features]] logo
* This also appears at the end of various TV movies from the era such as ''The Blue Knight'', ''Bad Ronald'', ''Don't Be Afraid of the Dark'', and ''Helter Skelter'', which are retained on some of the recent DVD and Blu-ray releases (and omitting the [[Viacom (1952-2006)|Viacom]] "V of Doom" logo at the end on current releases, although the original Warner Archive DVD-R of ''Don't Be Afraid of the Dark'' and a recent European TV broadcast of ''A Dream for Christmas'' feature the Viacom "Wigga Wigga" logo plastered over this logo, while a recent Decades broadcast of ''The Blue Knight'' had the Viacom "V of Steel" logo over this logo instead).
* This also appears at the end of various TV movies from the era such as ''The Blue Knight'', ''Bad Ronald'', ''Don't Be Afraid of the Dark'', and ''Helter Skelter'', which are retained on some of the recent DVD and Blu-ray releases (and omitting the [[Viacom (1952-2006)|Viacom]] "V of Doom" logo at the end on current releases, although the original Warner Archive DVD-R of ''Don't Be Afraid of the Dark'' and a recent European TV broadcast of ''A Dream for Christmas'' feature the Viacom "Wigga Wigga" logo plastered over this logo, while a recent Decades broadcast of ''The Blue Knight'' had the Viacom "V of Steel" logo over this logo instead).
*It's also seen on a few earlier episodes of ''Dallas'' in its original syndication run. However, most current syndicated episodes prior to 1986, and all episodes on the S1/S2 DVD set plaster/replace it with the WBTD logo, and the 1988 [[Worldvision Enterprises]] logo on a couple of S2 episodes (Worldvision distributed the show internationally until the 1990s, when the rights reverted back to Warner Bros.). On the PAL DVD release of ''Dallas'', this is only retained in the first episode of the series.
* It's also seen on a few earlier episodes of ''Dallas'' in its original syndication run. However, most current syndicated episodes prior to 1986, and all episodes on the S1/S2 DVD set plaster/replace it with the Warner Bros. Television Distribution logo, and the 1988 [[Worldvision Enterprises]] logo on a couple of S2 episodes (Worldvision distributed the show internationally until the 1990s, when the rights reverted back to Warner Bros.). On the PAL DVD release of ''Dallas'', this is only retained in the first episode of the series.
*This was also originally seen on the first two seasons of ''Eight is Enough'', but this logo along with the next logo got plastered by the 1990 WBTD logo in syndication and most reruns.
* This was also originally seen on the first two seasons of ''Eight is Enough'', but this logo along with the next logo got plastered by the 1990 Warner Bros. Television Distribution logo in syndication and most reruns.


'''Editor's Note''': Generally speaking, this is noted for its unique design and jingle, but also for its unpolished animation with a noticeable error, as part of the "'''P'''" appears before it is animated!
'''Editor's Note:''' Generally speaking, this is noted for its unique design and jingle, but also for its unpolished animation with a noticeable error, as part of the "'''P'''" appears before it is animated!


===2nd Logo (September 6, 1978-May 22, 1986)===
===2nd Logo (September 6, 1978-May 22, 1986)===
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'''Music/Sounds Variants:'''
'''Music/Sounds Variants:'''
*On ''Knots Landing'' S2 episode "Hitchhike, Part 2", the logo theme is played on a synthesizer.
* On ''Knots Landing'' S2 episode "Hitchhike, Part 2", the logo theme is played on a synthesizer.
*On a Hallmark Channel Italy airing of ''Dallas'' season 2 episode "Black Market Baby", the 1986 Lorimar-Telepictures theme was heard over it due to a reverse plaster error.
* On a Hallmark Channel Italy airing of ''Dallas'' season 2 episode "Black Market Baby", the 1986 [[Lorimar-Telepictures]] theme was heard over it due to a reverse plaster error.
*On the blooper video for the 1980-1981 season of ''Dallas'', the music is replaced with multiple sci-fi style gunshot sound effects.
* On the blooper video for the 1980-1981 season of ''Dallas'', the music is replaced with multiple sci-fi style gunshot sound effects.


'''Availability:''' Uncommon, bordering on rare.  
'''Availability:''' Uncommon, bordering on rare.  
*It can be seen on ''The Waltons'', ''Dallas'', ''Knots Landing'', and ''Falcon Crest'' episodes of the era, as well as various other shows, TV movies and miniseries that Lorimar produced during this time.  
* It can be seen on ''The Waltons'', ''Dallas'', ''Knots Landing'', and ''Falcon Crest'' episodes of the era, as well as various other shows, TV movies and miniseries that Lorimar produced during this time.  
*The "PRESENTS" version has been long gone from television, however, but is still intact on the first season DVD set of ''Knots Landing'' and a couple of episodes on the DVD set of the first season of ''Falcon Crest''.  
* The "PRESENTS" version has been long gone from television, however, but is still intact on the first season DVD set of ''Knots Landing'' and a couple of episodes on the DVD set of the first season of ''Falcon Crest''.  
*This can also be found on much later episodes of the 1980s version of ''Dream House'' as well, though that version of the show is now only intact from off-air recordings, as the master copies of all the episodes and production materials (which were not held by either Lorimar or WB) were destroyed in a flood in 2013.  
* This can also be found on much later episodes of the 1980s version of ''Dream House'' as well, though that version of the show is now only intact from off-air recordings, as the master copies of all the episodes and production materials (which were not held by either Lorimar or WB) were destroyed in a flood in 2013.  
*The B&W version of the "A presentation of Lorimar" logo is found on the 1989 VHS release of the original ''House on Haunted Hill'', released by CBS/Fox Video (though the box has the Lorimar-Telepictures logo).  
* The B&W version of the "A presentation of Lorimar" logo is found on the 1989 VHS release of the original ''House on Haunted Hill'', released by [[20th Century Fox Home Entertainment|CBS/Fox Video]] (though the box has the Lorimar-Telepictures logo).  
*On some pre-fall 1986 episodes of ''Falcon Crest'', it's plastered over with the Lorimar-Telepictures logo. This logo was also originally seen at the end of S3-S5 episodes of ''Eight is Enough'', but was plastered over by the 1990 WBTD logo on some reruns in syndication. This was originally seen on the pilot of ''Valerie'' and early episodes of ''Perfect Strangers'', but the 1st and 2nd season box sets of the latter show replace it with the Lorimar-Telepictures logo. TNN (now The Paramount Network) airings of ''The Waltons'' in the late 1990s plaster this logo with the 1994 WB Domestic Pay TV logo.  
* On some pre-fall 1986 episodes of ''Falcon Crest'', it's plastered over with the Lorimar-Telepictures logo. This logo was also originally seen at the end of S3-S5 episodes of ''Eight is Enough'', but was plastered over by the 1990 [[Warner Bros. Television|Warner Bros. Television Distribution]] logo on some reruns in syndication. This was originally seen on the pilot of ''Valerie'' and early episodes of ''Perfect Strangers'', but the 1st and 2nd season box sets of the latter show replace it with the Lorimar-Telepictures logo. TNN (now The Paramount Network) airings of ''The Waltons'' in the late 1990s plaster this logo with the 1994 [[Warner Bros. Domestic Pay TV, Cable & Network Features]] logo.  
*It also appeared on the 1983 unsold CBS TV pilot ''The Best of Times''.  
* It also appeared on the 1983 unsold CBS TV pilot ''The Best of Times''.  
*It has been spotted at the end of the Karl-Lorimar, [[Lorimar Home Video]], and [[Warner Home Video]] prints of ''Americathon'' with the music (it was omitted from the Warner Archive DVD release), as well as a select handful of ''Dallas'' episodes on DVD from season 3 and onward, ''Dallas: The Early Years'' on DVD from the ''Dallas Movie Collection'' (preceded by the Roundelay logo), and followed by the 1972 "Distributed by Warner Bros." logo on some episodes of ''Knots Landing'' on DVD.  
* It has been spotted at the end of the [[Lorimar Home Video]] and [[Warner Bros. Home Entertainment|Warner Home Video]] prints of ''Americathon'' with the music (it was omitted from the Warner Archive DVD release), as well as a select handful of ''Dallas'' episodes on DVD from season 3 and onward, ''Dallas: The Early Years'' on DVD from the ''Dallas Movie Collection'' (preceded by the Roundelay logo), and followed by the 1972 "Distributed by [[Warner Bros. Pictures|Warner Bros.]]" logo on some episodes of ''Knots Landing'' on DVD.  
*It was seen at the end of the unsold game show pilot ''Babble'', when Game Show Network first aired the full pilot on October 5th, 2014 (without the credit crunching).
* It was seen at the end of the unsold game show pilot ''Babble'', when Game Show Network first aired the full pilot on October 5th, 2014 (without the credit crunching).
*The Warner Archive instant streaming retains this on the TV movies ''Desperate Lives'' and ''One Shoe Makes It Murder''.
* The Warner Archive instant streaming retains this on the TV movies ''Desperate Lives'' and ''One Shoe Makes It Murder''.
*The still, silent "Distributed By" variant can be seen on the end of MST3K's version of ''Mitchell'', very briefly during the transition back to the host segment. A version of this variant (with audio) was seen on a MUBI print of The Ninth Configuration.
* The still, silent "Distributed By" variant can be seen on the end of MST3K's version of ''Mitchell'', very briefly during the transition back to the host segment. A version of this variant (with audio) was seen on a MUBI print of The Ninth Configuration.
*This was originally seen on early episodes of ''Valerie'' and ''Perfect Strangers''.
* This was originally seen on early episodes of ''Valerie'' and ''Perfect Strangers''.


'''Editor's Note:''' It's noted for unnerving some viewers for the black background and jingle, but at the same time, it's still a favorite among logo fans for its good 2D animation, as well as impeccable timing with the music.
'''Editor's Note:''' It's noted for unnerving some viewers for the black background and jingle, but at the same time, it's still a favorite among logo fans for its good 2D animation, as well as impeccable timing with the music.
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